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Hudson Valley Democrats Score High on Environment

Rep. Nan Hayworth is the fifth highest scoring Republican member of Congress, according to the environmental watchdog organization.

Democratic members of Congress from the Hudson Valley had high marks on the annual New York League of Conservation Voters 2011 National Environmental Scorecard release Tuesday.

Both Democratic senators—Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand—had top scores of 100, said Marcia Bystryn, president of the league.

"New Yorkers care a lot about our environment," she said. "It should not come as a surprise both of our senators had perfect scores in 2011."

In the House, Rep. Nita Lowey, D-Harrison, achieved a 97, while Rep. Eliot Engel, D-Bronx, scored a 94.

On the Republican side of the aisle in the House, Rep. Nan Hayworth, R-Mount Kisco, was given a grade of 43.

"While her score is nothing to write home about," Bystryn said, "her score in the fifth highest in the Republican House."

Alex Taurel, the league's legislative representative, said the league talks to Hayworth all the time about environmental issues.

"We are going to keep working with her," he said.

Taurel said first session of the 112th Congress was the most anti-environment in the nation's history.

"It's a sad testament to the radical nature of the first session," he said.

The 2011 Scorecard includes 11 Senate and a record 35 House votes on issues ranging from protecting public health to clean energy and land and wildlife conservation.

Taurel said that one of the good stories from 2011 is that a lot of the anti-environment legislation that made it out of the House was not taken up by the Democratic-controlled Senate or enough votes were not obtained to pass.

New York's average scores were 100 for the Senate and 72 for the House of Representatives, compared with national averages of 55 for the Senate and 45 for the House.

Only Connecticut, Delware, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, Maryland, Rhode Island, Oregon and Vermont had better House averages than New York. 

The full 2011 National Environmental Scorecard can be found here.

Bob Ogden February 09, 2012 at 01:34 PM
Issy, One way or another we will soon find out as the hydro-fracking controversy comes to New York. It seems we've already drawn up party lines on this one, but, I urge everyone to study up on Dimock, Pa before they say this practice is harmless to the environment. Hopefully Watchdog will support banning this practice here as a conservation issue.
Issy February 09, 2012 at 02:32 PM
Nonsense, European cars get approx. 50% better gas mileage on the same car that sells in the US. CAFE standards have not kept up with technology. Clearing old trees in a managed approach is one thing, raping forests for short term profit another. History has shown that the earth's climate is very susceptible to long term change due to inconspicuous events. Our 'small part' is having dire consequence, especially on the oceans. FYI Volcanic activity is slower as the earth cools and sun activity has remained constant so neither are playing a part in our current warming.
Bob Ogden February 09, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Climate change caused by the sun and volcanoes? Come on! Not even a room full of billionaires can believe that.
Francis T McVetty February 09, 2012 at 05:27 PM
Peekskill Pete, this planets environment has been changing many, many years before the advent of humans. It cools it warms all due to NATURAL causes that include the sun, meteor strikes and even volcanoes. Even the 99% can figure that out.
Kevin February 09, 2012 at 05:37 PM
Francis, you are right about the climate naturally changing. But if you actually believe that a volcanic eruption can influence global climate, how can say with absolute certainty that the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation since the industrial revolution has had NO impact on climate?
Bob Ogden February 09, 2012 at 06:13 PM
Francis, I'm not doubting that natural causes can change the climate without mans help. But man can also change the climate and that is a fact that all legitimate scientists agree on. When it comes to science, I'd prefer to listen to scientists and not politicians.
Francis T McVetty February 09, 2012 at 06:18 PM
Kevin, I didn't say that volcanoes were the only influence on climate change. The United Sates of America has been a leader when it comes to a clean environment. You can't say that about the majority of the rest of the world. Why is it always us that is blamed for the world pollution problem? Ever been to China, India, Mexico, to name a few. Let the rest of the world clean up its act and then criticize us.
Kevin February 09, 2012 at 06:42 PM
Ahh, I see. Thank you for clarifying Francis. So, it could be a combination of things that can change climate. How many ways do people influence climate? Hmmm... And if the United States has been a leader when it comes to a clean environment, it has been no thanks to conservatives and big business, who fight it every step of the way, and have shipped our jobs overseas for cheap labor and lax environmental regs. Now you want those countries to clean up their act? Well that's just not good for business, is it?
Francis T McVetty February 09, 2012 at 06:55 PM
Kevin, if the US tax code made it favorable to do businesses here, then companies would not have to go off shores to manufacturer their products! Again if you missed it THE CLIMATE HAS BEEN CHANGING FOR HUNDREDS AND MULLIONS OF YEARS BEFORE THE APPEARANCE OF MAN. !!! Sorry about shouting, but you seem to have a hearing problem.
Francis T McVetty February 09, 2012 at 06:58 PM
Peekskill Pete, "all legitimate scientists agree on" ? So the ones that don't are illegitimate? Says who, you? The figures were FUDGED, haven't you been reading the papers?
Kevin February 09, 2012 at 07:24 PM
Francis, I didn't miss it. I understand it fairly well. My initial comment, if YOU missed it, said "you are right about the climate naturally changing." That is a fact that nobody denies. However, that does not mean that humans couldn't possibly influence the environment. Taxes are higher here because Americans demand and deserve a better place to live than third world countries. Those other countries are a hell of a bargain because they are desperate for work, business and money. We worked hard to build a great country, and it doesn't come cheap or easy.
Francis T McVetty February 09, 2012 at 07:39 PM
Kevin, then why would the administration want to take away a driving force in economic development and want to increase in the excise tax? Do you think that will spur the economy on to being bigger and better for all? I also never said that humans didn't have any part in global warming/cooling. I said only a very small part.
Kevin February 09, 2012 at 07:57 PM
The whole system is flawed. We need resposible businesses. Businesses that care about where they are from. Our infrastructure is crumbling. This country is falling farther and farther behind. The private sector isn't doing jack. They complain and complain, and when they get a break, a bailout, and profits soar, they keep it all. Don't even try to give me some trickle down nonsense. I am happy that you have recognized that humans can in fact change the climate. Regarding your comment about fudging the numbers, I thought all of those scientists were cleared of any wrong doing. I don't know what papers you're reading. Same thing with ACORN. All cleared. Probably not talked about in great detail on Hannity or O'Reilly. People were up in flames when a pimp walks in to an ACORN facility trying to scam the system. When we find out it was all a sham, it's crickets with you people.
Francis T McVetty February 09, 2012 at 11:12 PM
Kevin, you thought wrong.
Kevin February 10, 2012 at 12:18 AM
Ok. Sorry Francis. I am confused, and I am hoping you can help me. I remember seeing stories like this (taken from "your" side): http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/14/climate-scientists-united-nations-misinterpret-data/.
Issy February 10, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Kevin, there is no "your" side. CO2 levels are rising, the earth is warming, marine life is being decimated from increased acidity, sea levels rising and the glaciers and ice caps are melting: These are indisputable facts supported by 97% of climate scientists, every bona fide university and research facility and every scientific journal. The "your" side would rather defame all the above, misrepresent and distort facts, listen to ignorant lying political pundits and quote reports from Exxon Mobile, than face reality. The "your" side refuse to discuss the science instead they fiddle like Nero while the earth 'burns'.
Scott Walters February 10, 2012 at 01:02 PM
Let's stop the shenanigans. CO2 is NOT a pollutant. Humans do NOT cause global warming, or else HUMANS would have CAUSED the last BIG WARM UP of 40,000 years ago. Krakatoa in 1883, Alaska in 1912 and Iceland in 1946...those three volcanic reruptions put more stuff into the air than HUMANS have form be beginning of humanity until 2100...and wait,...it's only 2012.... I would say that greater environmental cleanliness has caused warming. How so? Look at when I went to HS...in the late 1970's right after lead was taken out of gasoline. The Hudson froze over three of the four ewinters, and our air was of the worst quality insofar os pollutants, etc. went. Stop the insanity...NOW!
Kevin February 10, 2012 at 01:53 PM
Scott, CO2 is a green house gas. Period. I cannot believe you are comparing the impact humans are having on the planet now, versus 40,000 years ago. CO2 allows energy to enter our atmosphere and keeps in the generated heat. The eruptions from volcanoes, including ash, sulfur dioxide and other elements, actually blocks the suns rays and leads to cooling of the planet. I've heard you bring up your nostalgic observation of how the Hudson froze in the 70's. That's a cute story, but your assertion that creating a cleaner environment created negative environmental impacts is just flat out wrong. Your story really makes little sense and isn't supported by any scientific facts. Shenanigans. Insanity.
Bob Ogden February 10, 2012 at 02:10 PM
Scott, What color is the sky in your world? Clean air is causing global warming? Maybe you should be on Fox because even they haven't come up with this one. CO2 causes what is commonly known as the Greenhouse Effect. That is that it lets the rays of the sun in but keeps the heat from dissipating and thus raises the temperature. This isn't new science or some liberal plot, this is science that was taught to me in the 8th Grade and I'm 64 years old. As to lead being taken out of gasoline that was done because lead is a bad thing. It causes brain damage, birth defects and a host of other problems. Look what's going on around you and figure it out. I guarantee you we are not holding secret meetings to destroy big corporations but I fear they're having meetings that are destroying our world.
Kevin February 10, 2012 at 03:47 PM
Crickets.
Watchdog February 10, 2012 at 04:08 PM
When the sun comes out it is hotter than when the sun does not come out. I have lived a hood number of years and have not noticed any significant patterns in the changes of weather. Stores sell shorts and bathing suits in the summer and warm coats In the winter. Most of the CO2 is caused by exhaling so if you and your friends want to lower your carbon footprint whatever that cute term means, you can all hold your collective breaths for significant periods of time.
Kevin February 10, 2012 at 04:17 PM
Good news everybody!! Based on the extensive scientific research of Watchdog, who hasn't noticed any significant patterns in the changes of weather, based on decades of data collection and analysis I'm sure, and Scott Walters who saw the Hudson freeze in the 70's, there is nothing to worry about!! Yaaaaay!!
Francis T McVetty February 10, 2012 at 05:23 PM
Issy, you are wrong on the glaciers melting, maybe you are wrong on the rest of it? http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/09/himalayan-glaciers-have-lost-no-ice-in-past-10-years-new-study-reveals/?intcmp=trending
Francis T McVetty February 10, 2012 at 05:25 PM
Kevin, did you see this one?http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/09/himalayan-glaciers-have-lost-no-ice-in-past-10-years-new-study-reveals/?intcmp=trending
Francis T McVetty February 10, 2012 at 05:32 PM
The only thing to worry about is Al Gore's lies. He has made a large fortune with his "power point presentation" An Inconvenient Truth. Men while while he tells us that we are killing the planet, he is off in his jet or living in a house that uses more than ten times the energy of the average house hold. All this is, is a plan to level the playing field. Instead of raising the the bar, he is lowering our standards to meet the low setting on that bar. This is typical LIBERAL BS. Why is it that they are out to punish the achievers? You know those small companies that employee all those workers. He and those liberals won't be happy till we are driving around in golf carts and reading by candlelight.
Don Pachner February 10, 2012 at 05:47 PM
Francis, Please try to read the entire article before jumping to conclusions. I will post the relevant part below. Additionally, you should note, if you give science any credence at all, that very cold air cannot carry much moisture (when you see condensation inside a cold window pain, that is the moisture from the warm room where it hits the cold barrier.) Consequently, snow accumulation on top of normally extremely cold high altitutde glaciers increases with the warmer air temperatures that global warming brings. Of course, that may very well change as the climate warms beyond current temperature levels. This may account for some of the dynamic in connection with the mass measurements mentioned in the article; however, you should note that the glaciers themselves in most parts of the world are receding at an astounding pace, and photographic evidence of this can easily be found on the internet. The additional comments in the article you cite in next posting:
Don Pachner February 10, 2012 at 05:48 PM
Francis,, If you read the full article, you will note that 150 tons of glacial ice are melting annually: Bamber was quick to caution that the new study doesn’t alter his view that the climate is changing, and rapidly. “This new study doesn't change our view of the risks and threats from climate change,” he said in an online chat at the Guardian. “What it does do is improve our knowledge of the recent behavior of one part of the climate system.” Indeed, Wahr’s study clearly notes that lower-altitude glaciers and ice caps are melting, to the tune of about 150 billion tons of ice annually, which the study predicts could lead to an overall rise in sea levels. He concluded that the higher altitude and therefore colder Himalayan peaks may be temporarily impervious to factors causing melting. "One possible explanation is that previous estimates were based on measurements taken primarily from some of the lower, more accessible glaciers in Asia and were extrapolated to infer the behavior of higher glaciers. But unlike the lower glaciers, many of the high glaciers would still be too cold to lose mass even in the presence of atmospheric warming," Wahr said.
Don Pachner February 10, 2012 at 05:49 PM
Francis, Sorry for my typo...if you read the article you cite, 150 BILLION tons of glacial ice are melting annually.
Kevin February 10, 2012 at 05:52 PM
I didn't know, and it doesn't sway me at all. I am happy to see the scientists correct themselves on this isolated matter. This was a short term study of a specific region. Doesn't change my views on global issues, long term. Try again though. It's entertaining. BTW, so these are the same people who you didn't believe before. Now you do? Which is it? Can you admit that you were unaware about the scientists cleared of wrong doing, because you let that slip off the radar. http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0209/Study-Himalayan-glaciers-melting-more-slowly-than-thought-but-seas-are-still-rising http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/feb/10/glacier-data-climate-change-debate?intcmp=239
Bob Ogden February 10, 2012 at 09:23 PM
Watchdog/Francis/Scott, Every morning when I get up and walk into my tile bathroom, I notice that my feet are cold. This therefore proves that there is no global warming because if there was I'm sure my bathroom tiles would be hot and not cold which is what they were forty years ago when I did the same thing. Stay in your world. We will deal with the reasonable people who believe in science.

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